The reason I put this up in the first place was definitely thinking anyone who was wondering what a vocoder is would like to find examples of it in use, as many simply do not understand how it could possibly sound. A "basic carrier wave" has not been introduced. Worlock by Skinny Puppy; Saviour (vox) by VNV Nation; You too can sound like some inhuman mechanical fiend bent on world destruction. They are also pioneers of Industrial, so I am going to return this to the list. I assume people's top three were run through the proverbial bottle neck through the years. -- Oarih 16:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC), Hi... um, it seems this article has no real list now, unfortunately. The Industrial music genre is notable for it's vocoder work, whihc is apparent in almost any major band within it, in some song or another. -- Shadowolf 00:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC). Yesh! If I was wrong, then you can return some of them), User:Raindog469: If you click on the soundonsound.com link today, you'll see a footnote explaining that Cher's engineer did, in fact, use the Autotune. Rabies is a 1989 album by Skinny Puppy.It was released on CD, cassette, and LP by Nettwerk Records in Canada, licensed for release on the same formats to Capitol Records in the United States, and released on CD only by Nettwerk in Europe. I don't know if you are hinting at how fickle people can be or it is surprising that some people really do have a top three skinny puppy tracks. Regards, Pfagerburg (talk) 02:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC). Share. 04:43 Compositeurs : Ken Marshall - Kevin Crompton - Kevin Ogilvie - … (Seul l'instant présent est réel!) This edit made a statement about the location of spectral peaks in a filterbank. I was the original person to start making a list of bands and songs which were good examples of the vocoder in use. Stream Worlock (Skinny Puppy) by Johan Ess from desktop or your mobile device. Since 2005, the Dalek voice in the television series has been provided by Nicholas Briggs, speaking into a microphone connected to a voice modulator. Worlock is a single by the band Skinny Puppy from the album Rabies. Same with "Hide and Seek" by Imogen Heap (it's a harmonizer, but not necessarily an Eventide). I was pretty amazed to find such a typical sound in such an early example in this radio show, which is published under CC "Public Domain" and hence can be used for demonstration on WP. To me, WORLOCK is one of Skinny Puppy's best tracks, despite coming off RABIES, one of their most uneven albums. Bootlegged, Broke and in Solvent Seas (Live) 05:47 Writer: Skinny Puppy / Composers: Skinny Puppy / Other contributors: D.R . And yes, most of what rivet mentioned is good, too. The actual heart of vocoder operation, which as I understand it is short-time Fourier transform, is only hinted at in passing. name of effect and at least one most famous example of application), I disagree here... listing the frequently-mistaken devices and including a link with more information on all of them should be fine. here [1] on the Internet Archive's OTR section. Écoutez Worlock (Ed) par Skinny Puppy - Worlock. 0:50. cevin key interview p3 . Lucy Duncan. But I like vocoder, on the condition that it's done properly. How to stop such users ? Briggs said that when the BBC asked him to do the voice for the new television series, they instructed him to bring his own analogue ring modulator - the BBC's sound department had changed to a digital platform and could not adequately create the distinctive Dalek sound with their modern equipment! --Clusternote (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC), As a result, users who can't search any sources and can't add any references seem to be deleting bulky descriptions. List of music releases featuring a vocoder, Vocoder in musical context prior to the 1970's. 2006-10-29 10:00:16 AM : Fnerg? Is it an encryption device? Skinny Puppy - Glass Houses (Live New York 1985) Quinn Odell. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC). Skinny Puppy: Worlock ‎ (CD, Single) Nettwerk: W2-3071: Canada: 1990: Sell This Version: Recommendations Reviews Add Review [r838468] Release. The section on vocoder theory is quite unclear (why discuss human vocalizing??). Spahn Dirge is also cool, but because it is live, it sounds rather plain and nasty. Beyond that, giving a decent list of positive examples of what it IS and what it sounds like, including notable usage-examples, should be fine for this article. 213.39.209.232 07:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC). 4 tracks (21:21). I'm trying to clean this article up, so if any of you have more suggestions of the use of a vocoder in a song, please add it. Overall had decent low end though. --VoiceEncoder (talk) 07:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC), What does a vocoder do, I wonder? I listed what I would consider to be truly awesome examples of what a vocoder can do. The musical community of reddit "Other users of the vocoder include Prince, George Clinton, the late Roger Troutman, Teddy Riley, Rihanna, DeVante Swing, Imogen Heap, T-Pain, the electro-freestyle group Meat Biscuit, Kanye West and Black Moth Super Rainbow." 1 C! They sound similar enough that it's not possible to describe the vocoder sound unabigously without comparing to these other effects. I wouldn't mind this don't the same, heh. As for telling them apart, I think it's enough in the main article to mention that it's frequently confused with [these other things] (maybe even specifying a few particularly well-known non-vocoder examples). Everything2 ™ is brought to you by Everything2 Media, LLC. Skinny Puppy - 08 - Worlock (Live in Budapest) Music. The vocoder is listed in the credits of O' Superman, though many times such things CAN become confusing, due to the nature of different vocal filters. All content copyright © original author unless stated otherwise. To me, WORLOCK is one of Skinny Puppy's best tracks, despite coming off RABIES, one of their most uneven albums. by StFiend: Wed Mar 21 2001 at 7:16:39: Everything is not better with vocoders. Directed by Dean English, Kevin 'ohGr' Ogilvie, Dermot Shane. I don't want to consume my spare time with unpleasant children. (Give the song a listen, it's a fantastic example of the effect of a vocoder in music) Worlock (Hildesheim Version) Skinny Puppy. The title should be something like "robotic voice effects". Découvrez plus de 56 millions de titres, créez et écoutez vos propres playlists et partagez vos titres préférés avec vos amis. 01. The album spawned two singles, "Tin Omen" and "Worlock", the latter of which becoming one of the band's most recognizable songs. The section was messy and trivia based, and was without proper prose style. Album Live: Bootlegged, Broke and in Solvent Seas. In 1993 the CD edition was reissued by Nettwerk to correct mastering errors in the original release. I had no idea what a vocoder is, and I would love to hear what one sounds like through various examples... if there are really a lot of songs, may I suggest a seperate article for a list? While I can understand the opinion on LPD, the use in that song is an excellent example of the power of the vocoder. However, I strongly disagree with "Worlock" by Skinny Puppy being left off this list. It is a serious request from me. The talk box article for one, cited a good number of examples quite perfectly to my needs with enough varied artists to find through my collection of songs to hear what one sounds like. The purpose in this article is to list the various effects that get confused with the vocoder more often than not. The Dalek voices were NOT done with vocoders, as the BBC Radiophonic workshop did not own one in 1963. Stumbled upon this meanwhile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH-krlgo2e8 - I agree, Morgan's piece sounds more like a Sonovox. The user who edited from 79.65.100.24 is quite welcome to discuss the issue and improve the article, as he/she seems to be much more knowledgeable about vocoders than I. Bootlegged, Broke and in Solvent Seas (Live) 05:47 Auteur : Skinny Puppy / Compositeurs : Skinny Puppy / Autres contributeurs : D.R. The entire first paragraph, about how sounds are created by the human mouth, has absolutely nothing to do with the way a vocoder works; it's well known that the human voice is made of sounds, it doesn't really matter how they're produced. Discover more music, concerts, videos, and pictures with the largest catalogue online at Last.fm. Add to Collection Add to Wantlist Remove from Wantlist. Anyone completely ignorant of how a vocoder works would find it difficult if not impossible to understand it based on this explanation. It's just too prime an example of brilliant use, by a forerunner of the genre in one of their best songs. This coupled with the fact that she continued (and continues) to make use of it in her work would seem to make her relationship with it more important than some of the "one off" instances listed. I would list Laurie Anderson (in fact I am surprised she is not in the main body of this article at all) as one of the premier users of the vocoder in the popular arts. Deezer : musique en streaming gratuite. This link features three 15 minute episodes of the first radio show of comedian Henry Morgan ("Here's Morgan"), produced somewhere between 1940 and the 1950's. --Clusternote (talk) 22:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC). Cyclops overlooks optic options. He's significant because he was the first R&B singer, or African-American singer/musician to extensively use the vocoder. 01. 8:51. User:Rekoil 10:09, 23 July 2007, I agree it shouldn't be a poorly-choosen ad hoc list of some songs which use vocoders! Musical application in "non-popular" music variety was not uncommon before (Stockhausen? So I wouldn't say it's off topic but has grown a little too comprehensive for this purpose. Many of Front 242 drums are created with vocoders, for example. You too can sound like some inhuman mechanical fiend bent on world destruction. Also, the phrase 'instantaneous frequency' is both not particularly illuminating, and in fact also technically meaningless; I'm not even sure what the original author meant, phase information perhaps? These two artists have made really extensive and dedicated use of vocoder (most notably on albums "Feets don't Fail me Now" and "Zapp"). Also, the second paragraph claims that the process "results in a series of numbers". This statement was later commented out using HTML comment tags. How about a discussion of the use of vocoders in digital telephony? 26.3m members in the Music community. Buy Vinyl Sell Vinyl. I wonder why they were not included before. I didn’t agree with all, but I can say absolutely with the repress of Rabies, if you can’t get the original press, stick with the CD. Or what?77Mike77 (talk) 12:19, 1 April 2013 (UTC), This section badly needs rewriting as it must be virtually incomprehensible to the general reader with no technical backround. First, this could describe any digital process. This video was banned originally due to copyright violations and graphic content. And no, a harmoniser is not the same thing as a vococder.. a harmoniser creates transposed copies of the input signal, the frequencies of which are controlled by midi. (I assume they were not very important entries. In Case of the Ex by Mya, the vocoder was used only once, to accentuate an interesting vocal line, and it works beautifully. Worlock (Hildesheim Version) Skinny Puppy. Écoutez Worlock (Ed) par Skinny Puppy - The Singles Collect. Even Ogre's lyrics, a rambling sideshow of horrors, seem to build to an actual crescendo of agony. Listing the string of gizmoes that an input signal is put through, in technical language, expains exactly nothing about what a vocoder is, what it is used for, and why anyone would want one. Écoutez Tin Omen 1 par Skinny Puppy - Worlock. But every time I hear a new boring, formulaic pop song that's been drenched in vocoder in a vain attempt to make it more interesting, hip or innovative, I want to vomit. Ovirt . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.70.148 (talk), Roger Troutman and the Zapp Band along with Peter Frampton did not use and have never used the vocoder. If someone with a firm grasp of the theory could re-write this section I would be most appreciative. There is no need to list every artist, album etc using a vocoder. Worlock is the pinnacle of the album, but only because of the vocoder. What about Isao Tomita's arrangement of "Colliwog's Cakewalk"? They are also pioneers of Industrial, so I am going to return this to the list. Seriously, the list is ridiculously over sized. 70% of what is said in that section would still have to be said in the vocoder article after a split. There was another user that said that all of the represses are bad quality, and should be avoided if possible. Though it had been used before in pop music (for vocals), notably with Alan Parson's "Raven" and Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" (and less overt users, of course) "O' Superman" went to #2 in the charts and made leaps and bounds towards the general public accepting the vocoder as a popular tool. Stream Worlock (Live at Hildesheim) (from Bootlegged, Broke And In Solvent Seas) Available 6/12 by Skinny Puppy from desktop or your mobile device Skinny Puppy : Worlock paroles et traduction de la chanson . Two more studio albums, 2007's Mythmaker and 2011's Handover, followed before the release of 2012's live album Bootlegged, Broke and in Solvent Seas. Books Assimilating New Leaders : The Key to Executive Retention Full Online. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.147.242.234 (talk) 05:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC), Some peoples seems repeatedly deleting the statements without any preceding notification such as {{Citation needed}} nor searching sources. Edit Release All Versions of this Release Data Correct . (Though again, I would list these bands before some of the ones listed in the body of the article due to extensive usage). It's every bit as blatant with the vocoder as Kid Rock's song, but it adds to the general ambience of the song. I sympathize with the person who previously vandalized the page to point that out. The concepts are not difficult, they are just very badly expressed. I think the "Vocoder Theory" section is weak in general. Putting in the fact that the Legendary Pink Dots (?!) Bryan 12:34, 3 April 2008 - Agree, vocoders are synonymous with Roger Troutman to anyone listening to Funk and R&B music of the early 80's. Deezer : musique en streaming gratuite. Rotten, showstopper, skinpopper. In the Musical History section, I added R&B singer Roger Troutman. 15:24. ~ P-123 (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC). 2006-10-29 9:49:39 AM : And the winner is... Special J. Hide and Seek from Imogen Heap was on this list : this incorrect, she used a harmoniser, a real time multichannel transposer, for this song. His samples found its way into countless early rap songs as well - particularly on the west coast. 0:24. Instant, still spellbound. As far as I know George Clinton and Roger Troutman mostly used talkboxes (I'm fairly confident Roger Troutman never used a vocoder), and likewise I think that Rihanna, T-Pain and Kanye West mostly use Autotune, which, while it uses phase vocoding techniques, I don't think that anyone thinks of it as a vocoder. Binge, cringe, cringe, binge. --Nullcherri 19:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC), I feel the article should focus on the vocoder. "Worlock" features a vocoder prominently throughout the chorus with a rather stunning impact which has lead it to become one of the band's most well known and beloved songs. And this was before Herbie Hancock. I will respectfully state that I think it is incorrect to consider some of my options as being "poorly-chosen" or "rediculous". A 1994 jam between Skinny Puppy and Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV member Genesis P-Orridge was released under the title Puppy Gristle in 2002 on Key's subCON label. If it is, then it must be mentioned. What is it for? How to stop the users who want to delete the statements without notification nor searching sources. -- Oarih 05:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC), So, is there some other way of distinguishing vocoder from other robot effects, or should the split proposal be put to rest? Produced by Dave Ogilvie & CEvin Key. Most other songs are accompanied in some other way, while "Hide and Seek" is just voice processed through a vocoder. It's obvious therefore that Daleks should have precedence over Cylons in the section where it's stated, with Cylons having been mentioned as "also using this method to give them their distinctive voices". Is that vocoder? On second thought, maybe this is not such a good idea. the following entries were removed in order to make list cleaner. Arru 10:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC), While I'm here, I think the article is not too good as it stands; it has a "written by committee" feel. In the first of the three episodes (after approx. Two notable examples of vocoders used in television series are the Cylon voices in Battlestar_Galactica_(1978) and V_(TV_series). Not a vocoder. Well I'm not sure about any of that, but some citations would be welcome I suppose. Ovirt . For example, "O Superman" (Laurie Anderson) was, I believe, an Eventide Harmonizer, rather than a Vocoder. 13:00), a very typical polyphonic vocoder "choir" application can be heard (apparently recorded 1942! Free Radical. Worlock (Hildesheim) Skinny Puppy. ~ … Better to list certain key artists / tracks which were particular innovative/notable (many of which are already in there) South Park The Stick of Truth Gameplay … There's an unsupported freeware 18 channel software vocoder for Windows, called CYLONIX http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/cyclonix.html, Got rid of the ] after Cylons for the Cylon (1978) wiki link. They used the talk-box exclusively. God slipped away quietly, during third period physics class, Science and the Undead: Frog Dissection at Highland Junior High, Beautiful Shipwrecks and The Crags of Point Reyes, Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America. Please give me your suggestions. Now they're watching the people) In "Vocoder Theory", the first sentence of the second paragraph references "this basic carrier wave". AnalogVocoder1 (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2012 (UTC). The song uses a sample of the guitars in " Helter Skelter " by The Beatles, as well as a vocal sample of Charles Manson singing the song. This is a very old, very popular example of a "talking guitar" and was my introduction to the instrument. Listen free to Skinny Puppy – Worlock (Worlock (Ed), Worlock (Lp Mix) and more). "Blue" by Eiffel 65. A link to an article on audio effects for voice or whatever might be good, but including information on the use of ring modulators and comb filters for making robot voices in an article on vocoders seems way too off topic to me, particularly as neither is likely to be confused with a vocoder. 75.49.251.170 (talk) 08:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC). Marketplace 0 5 For Sale from $18.00. Hope to see his reference reinstated. Accéder à la fiche album complète (10 titres) 2011 BMG Rights Management GmbH 28-10-2011 Handover. In the hands of a true artist, a vocoder can be a valuable tool. This article also seems to confuse the vocoder with other effects. Découvrez plus de 56 millions de titres, créez et écoutez vos propres playlists et … I like it! Lyrics to 'Worlock' by Skinny Puppy. The staccato delivery, harsh tone and rising inflection of the Dalek voice were initially developed by voice actors Peter Hawkins and David Graham, who would vary the pitch and speed of the lines according to the emotion needed. Further additions may be removed or placed on a new page, as they are not adding to an understanding of the subject.--Ianmacm 14:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC), This section was removed because it was becoming unencyclopedic (see WP:INFO). Nahum Reduta 06:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC) — Whenever I think of vocoders, I think of Zapp and Roger, or perhaps the other way around. Worlock (Now is the only thing that's real!) one used a vocoder in a single verse of a single live version of a single song is ridiculous.--feline1 14:35, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC). Examples: "Only God Knows Why" by Kid Rock. Tore pen in vain. Better yet, why doesn't someone make an audio demo of a vocoder in action so we can reduce the list of songs even further? see : http://aurgasm.us/2005/10/aurgasm-interview-imogen-heap.html. --89.127.175.172 (talk) 13:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC). Streamez en Hi-Fi ou téléchargez en vraie qualité CD sur qobuz.com Jay CiR. I removed the listing of their song "Goneja" in favor of this. Yesh! ), as well as a short monophonic line in the second episode.
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